Eclipse ralliart et street Raider

WoRkZ a écrit:-

Il parle de la EVO électrique (un autre "thread")...

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julya a écrit:Est laite l'éclipse.......... je suis-tu la seule de cet avis ?!?!?!


Mais le pick-up est beau et l'Evo me fait rever......

Jay-Eff a écrit:Mais je suis sur qu'on verra pus jamais un 4g63 dans une mitsubishi. Meme la evo10 est supposé sortir avec un autre moteur.

Wouldbevo a écrit:

Jay-Eff a écrit:Mais je suis sur qu'on verra pus jamais un 4g63 dans une mitsubishi. Meme la evo10 est supposé sortir avec un autre moteur.

Wouldbevo a écrit:hmmm... si c'est le cas, ce serait le fun que la tranny soit coté passager...

Just to get this cleared up ONE MORE TIME (I'm getting sick of typing this) - the 1G or 2G motor will NOT fit within the 3G. No No No. The EVO motor WILL because it's rotated 180 degrees from the 2G motor's orientation. But they're essentially the same motor..

Here's how it works for people who dont know:
1G Motor - 4G63 Engine Code (opposite orientation from our cars)
2G Motor - 4G63 Engine Code (opposite orientation from our cars)
NON-turbo DSM Motor - 420A Engine Code (SAME orientation as our cars but nothing else is similar - it's a Neon motor)
2G NT Spyder - 4G64 Engine Code (opposite orientation from our cars)
EVO 1-3 Motor - 4G63 Engine Code (opposite orientation from our cars)
EVO 4-7 Motor - 4G63 Engine Code (SAME orientation as our cars)
RS/GS Motor - 4G64 Engine Code
GT Motor - 6G72 Engine Code (will NOT fit any of the above engines)

Wait.. so whats this orientation thing? *WHY* were things switched? Well.. its more about the transmission than the motor actually. See, nearly every FWD car out there has their motor located on the right-side (like ours) - but during the 90s Honda and Mitsu had their's on the LEFT. Now, this causes a few issues - follow me here: if a motor spins clockwise it'll then spin the input shaft of the tranny clockwise, which then makes the output shaft spin counter-clockwise, which then makes the differential spin clockwise (spinning the wheels clockwise as well). Got it? read that again and connect the dots if you're confused.

Ok, so whats that mean? Well.. when the motor is on the right side (like ours), that gives you the regular 5-speeds forward and 1-reverse gear. Cool. But when the motor is on the LEFT side (like the 1G/2Gs & early-EVOs), this gives you 5-speeds reverse and 1-speed forward.... not very pratical. :D

So Honda solved this "slight" problem by spinning the motor counter-clockwise from the start. DONE, problem solved. But Mitsubishi instead added an extra shaft to flip the rotation one more time to keep things going the right way. Ahh... extra shaft... more friction, power robbing efficiency, takes up space - great idea.

So this all changed when Mitsu wanted to upgrade the EVO 4's tranny with big ol' gears there just wasnt enough room. So Mitsu moved the engine to the right-side, and decided to do the same for future cars like ours. Ta-da!
Ryan Saghir
Club 3G Webmaster
www.neweclipse.org